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"Sophie was caught by a sect"

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Just when I was beginning to think that the media in Sweden might have started to become less restricted and more international in its mindset as it happens suddenly to an article appears in Aftonbladet that are clean return to the Middle Ages.

In an article in Aftonbladet with the title "Sofi was caught by a sect" (2015-03-06) describes how distraught parents who lost her daughter to a Mormon sect. Another interview with a renegade Mormon included. Unlike the story of "Sofi" so is this woman's name is not fingrerat.

The story of "Sofi" is a story that many members know. Indeed, there is not so many members in Sweden that you do not know who it is written on, especially not in this case. On Mormon Lady, we wrote about "Sofi" for a couple of years ago. The story is tragic. It is not really about a girl who chooses to become a Mormon. It is about parents who can not accept her daughter's life choices. Self I recognize all too well. My parents forbade me to have the church do when they understood my interest in it. I was forced to choose between the church and my parents. I was in fear of those who would represent my security and trust. How difficult it must be for parents to accept their children's choices and how difficult it must be for Aftonbladet not to be so black and white - all to create sensation? The sad for Aftonbladet is that there are lots of people in this country who actually know Mormons and who know that what they write is not true. "Sofi" himself wrote a blog post here on Mormon Lady for a couple of years ago where she gave her version of what had really happened. To avoid further conflicts with his parents as we were asked, however, to remove the blog post.

It is surprising that Aftonbladet may still be in this kind of duck pond and not realize that they have made fools of themselves. Other Swedish newspapers wrote today respectful of our faith. If you read a popular magazine, Huffington Post, you find many articles about the "Mormons." Some are not so flattering, but many are quite positive. They give words a nuanced picture of our church and our faith. How can Aftonbladet be as medieval? It is a mystery indeed.

Church Public Affairs felt that this article was going on and will respond to the criticism. Mormon Lady has been in contact with FINYAR researching new religions and alternative spirituality. They are surprised Aftonbladet's actions, but says Aftonbladet is difficult to communicate with. Aftonbladet had not contacted them that the article was about. Mormon Lady was the one who had to tell "Sofi" man if they stood them in Aftonbladet. The question is what kind of journalism it represents; not to allow all parties to be heard and not even informed that they intend to write about them?

On a couple of facebook groups for Swedish Church members who I'm in so discussed Aftonbladet article. How do you react when members of the Church of the article? Yes, some taking up the fact that only 16% of the Swedish population have confidence in Aftonbladet, according to a recent survey. Others feel a sense of security that people in general and, for example, employers think it is ok that they are "Mormons." Some get upset and think that Aftonbladet represents a limited socialist vision. We can all think differently. For my part, gives the closest to a post-traumatic stress disorder. I myself have gone through like Sofi has had to go through. But even though it is our parents who torment us so no one asks about our emotions and how we have been treated.

My oldest daughter is no longer active in the Church. Certainly, I hope that she ever come back to church because it is such a huge joy and comfort to have Jesus Christ in his life. But whatever she chooses for life so I respect that it is her life. She has free will and the right to choose their own life. As members of the Church, we must respect our children to choose their own lives and their own outlook on life. For me it is also obvious that all parents, regardless of creed, respecting their children's choice.

To read the article in its entirety so is this: http://web.comhem.se/dannereuter/aftonbladet_sondag_1mar_s32-38.pdf

 

 

Building Bridges Between Spirit-Filled Christians and Latter-Day Saints (Mormons): A Translation Guide for Born Again Spirit-Filled Christians

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Found a very good book that can help in communication. It is a book that is written by Rob and Kathy Datsko, now members of the Mormon Church, but has the same kind of experience as my earlier life. It makes it easier for Catholics, Protestants and evangelicals to communicate with Mormons and vice versa.

The book is cheap as ebook, but you can read for free on direct GoogleDocs also if you want to check it out first. Also available on Adlibris that book.

Rob and Kathy Datsko are converts to the LDS Church. They providesprofessional a fantastic overview of Relating the various aspects of the Latter-day Saint gospel living and beliefs With that of the "Spirit-filled Christians." In the authors' description, That can include anyone from Catholics to Protestants and Evangelicals.

Datskos providesprofessional Several great suggestions how Latter-day Saints can better communicate with this vast demographic. Spirit-filled Christians are Referred throughout the book as "SFC" In the same way that "LDS" is used for Mormon:

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865562757/LDS-converts-write-about-building-bridges-with-other-Christian-faiths.html?pg=all

https://books.google.se/books?id=3YGkVGoHCgkC&printsec=frontcover&dq=Rob+Datsko&hl=sv&sa=X&ei=ZVmMVMDHDeLCywO0-YDYCQ&ved=0CCEQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=Rob%20Datsko&f=false

https://www.adlibris.com/se/bok/building-bridges-between-spirit-filled-christians-and-latter-day-saints-mormons-a-translation-guide-for-born-again-spirit- filled-christians-charis-9781456613419

http://www.ebookit.com/books/0000001428/Building-Bridges-Between-Spirit-filled-Christians-and-Latter-day-Saints-Mormons-A-Translation-Guide-for-Born-Again-Spirit- filled-Christians-Pentecostals-Charismatics-Renewalists-and-Third-wavers-and-Latter-da

 

No true Scotsman

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No true Scotsman is a fallacy coining of Flew in the book Thinking About Thinking (1975) where the following conversation takes place (here in a common rewritten version of a less controversial topic):

"No Scotsman has sugar on porridge."
"But my friend Angus likes sugar on his porridge."
"Ah, sure, but no true Scotsman has sugar on porridge."

The argument is a fallacy, because the property to have sugar on porridge not in logical contradiction to the accepted definition of a Scotsman. Fallacy is also true when one adjusts the argument for the opposition to work.

It is not always as an objection like "he's no x because he makes a" is a fallacy. For example it is not wrong to say that a vegetarian does not eat meat, because it is included in the definition of vegetarian not to eat meat. There is therefore a logical contradiction between property eating meat and being a vegetarian.

Flew was at the time atheistic philosopher (deist towards the end of his life[1]) And suggested that Christian makes this type of -felslut when dismisses atrocities carried out in the name of Christianity to those who carried them were not genuine born-again Christians, but Christians only in name. Some argue that the same fallacy is done in politics when blaming ideologies failures that leaders were not "true" Communists, Liberals, Etc.

http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ingen_sann_skotte

David Archuleta sings to the new Meet The Mormons- film

David Archuleta-glorious790 Ahead of the new film Meet The Mormons, the church is now releasing in October, so it helps David Archuleta singing the song Glorious, which is written by Stephanie Mabey, and originally released on her album Waking Up Dreaming.

http://www.mormontabernaclechoir.org/articles/watch-glorious-by-david-archuleta-from-meet-the-mormons?cid=social_20141001_32692746&lang=eng

 

[Youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GytW_rgr0RM&w=560&h=315]

Salvation is guaranteed in this life?

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When I was 16 years so I was saved in the Pentecostal church. May sound a bit especially now that I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints since soon 24 years.

The nice thing about salvation in the Pentecostal church is that if you are saved, then you are saved. Therefore it does not matter that I then became a Mormon - for I am already saved.

It has happened that I have discussed this with the Free Church, and they agree with me. If you are saved then you are. Therefore, I recommend to first get saved in the Pentecostal church, and then in our church then you are really guaranteed salvation. It is, so to speak doubly insured. Mormon Lady is also saved in the Free Church. There she was, for many, many years ago, before she came into contact with Jesus Christ. So although she is doubly insured.

As you might imagine so do not think we in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that it works properly. Throughout the ages, man has made covenants with God. If you break the covenant, well then you have closed the door to God and Jesus Christ. Jesus knocking on your door, but you must be willing to open the door.

Unfortunately, I was recently reminded that there are non-conformist groups who again start writing about that Mormons are not saved, are not Christians and do not believe in grace. I have written about this before, but maybe need a refresher.

As members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, we believe ourselves to be Christians. We believe in Christ as the only path to salvation. We believe that he took upon himself our sins and let himself killed because he loves each one of us. If we receive Jesus Christ as our personal savior, we will be saved.

Oops, there was something different, right? We are not saved, we will be saved. Saved means rescued. Within frikyrkovärlden is it a guarantee that you are already in this life, in the Church of Jesus Christ, we believe that there is a warranty if you endure to the end. IF I receive Christ, but then deny Christ and for example, becomes an atheist, I have closed the door to Christ. Read this skrifställe and ponder it:

"For those who once received the light and tasted of the heavenly gift, been part of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the coming world power, but then fallen away, it is impossible to bring to new repentance, since they again crucify the Son of God and openly mocks him. "(Heb. 6: 4-6)

So if we accept Jesus Christ as our personal Savior, but then leaves him, it's like we crucified Jesus twice. I shudder when I read this scripture. There are passages like this that makes me in my heart has decided to hold out to the end. Because I'm no longer saved if I leave Christ. It's like being in the ocean, get a life preserver thrown to him. I will be saved! But if I suddenly throw away the lifebuoy - well then I'm drowning in the waves. Jesus Christ is our savior, our savior, but we can not be saved without him.
 
Then I hope we have addressed the chapter on that Mormons do not see themselves as they are saved, but they were saved. In fact it is not so active members of our church believe that they are saved, but it's just so that we express that we will be saved. Much like one who will conduct a marathon. Hen will be crowned with a medal once the finish line is reached. It's just that we are still in the race.
 
Yes, and so we had it there with grace and works. Then it is claimed that we as Mormons do not believe in salvation by grace. Of course, we believe that we are saved by grace. We can not somehow work our salvation. God and Jesus Christ are not interested in spiritual careerists who must show by their deeds that they are qualified for salvation. No, no. So, it is not. You can die for another man, but you do not have love, it does not matter on your part.
 

From his fullness we have all received, grace upon grace. (John 1: 16)

 

Yes, we believe that we are saved by grace. But what are the characteristics of salvation? Compare with dirty laundry. If I fill the machine with dirty laundry and then do not turn on the washing machine so I notice it when I start to pick with the laundry again. The laundry does not smell good and may have smudges. I'll have to add back the laundry in the machine, fill with detergent and turn the machine on.
 
So it is with salvation. We are not saved by works. Paul was very careful with this when he wrote, what we call love's praises.
 
"If I speak with men and of angels and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. And if I took the gift of prophecy and know all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith so that I could remove mountains and have not charity, I am nothing. And if I gave out everything I owned, and though I give my body to be burned, but do not have love, I gain nothing. "(Cows 1 13: 1-3)
 
Yes, it is this that is the crucial point - love. Jesus Christ gave us the greatest gift of love you can give. It was not that he gave his life on the cross, no - it was because he gave his life on the cross because He loves each of us.
 
If we are saved, if we have received Jesus Christ into our lives, so it should be labeled a difference. It's like the laundry in the washing machine. The laundry will no longer be dirty and smelly. It should smell good and be clean. So it is with us who have accepted Jesus Christ into our lives. It should be noted that we have been saved by grace. In the New Testament speaks of the fruits of faith:
 

"Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance." (Matte 3: 8)

 

"But what was sown on good ground is he who hears the word and understands, and that bears fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty." (Matte 13: 23)
 
"Cares of this world, the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, making it unfruitful." (Mark 4: 19)
 
"Therefore bear fruits worthy of repentance. And think not: We have Abraham as our father. I tell you that God can raise up children to Abraham from these stones. "(Luke 3: 8)
 

"I am the vine, ye are the branches. He that abideth in me and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. "(Jn 15: 5)

 

"But when you free from sin and have become slaves of God, the fruit that you should be sanctified and finally eternal life." (Rome 6: 22)
 
Fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Such is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. (Gal 5: 22-24)
 

My goal as a disciple of Jesus Christ is to thank him for the grace he has given me that I may be saved, that I sanctified and finally get eternal life. I want to live in the love of Christ and working to get closer to Christ so that I may partake of His love and goodness in full. I always want to have the Holy Spirit's presence in me and I want it to be understood that I am washed clean in the blood of Jesus Christ. I want to belong to Christ and bear the fruits of the Spirit. I also know that without love in my life is everything I do meaningless, because it is our inner God and Jesus Christ makes. Have I really opened the door and accepted Christ in my life? For me it's something I have to work every day. But that does not mean I do not believe that I am saved by grace, that means I have to keep the door open to Christ and His love.